Harry Grant - the real problem is his sciatic nerve in his back.

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Harry Grant (hamstring strain)
Sidelined since: Round 19

"It's a low grade injury for Harry," Hoffman said. "We expect he will be out for 2-3 weeks."

The problem for Harry is that his injury is not really in his hamstring that is just the symptom, the real problem it is the sciatic nerve in his back. The pain down the leg and in the hamstring is caused by the compression of a spinal nerve root(s). Sciatica occurs when one or more nerve roots from L4 to S3 are irritated or compressed due to conditions such as a herniated disc

Pain is usually the first symptom of sciatica and typically indicates nerve irritation or inflammation. Most commonly, a sharp, burning, or searing pain may be felt that affects only one leg. Thus Harry feels his hamstring but that is not the problem just the symptom.


A few examples of other types of pain that may be felt include:

Electric shock-like, shooting pain
Throbbing or pulsating pain
Constant dull ache
Discomfort that comes and goes

The problem for Harry is that he needs "minor" surgery to elevate the sciatic nerve problem in his back or some sort of significant physio but he is not able to get it while he is in the bubble. So he will be a "touch and go" factor for the rest of the season and I would expect him to come back and play a couple of games and then be sidelined again. We will be told it is hamstring issue but that is the symptom not the cause.

Maybe we should just leave him and bring him back for the finals?
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Really?

Or are you just making it up?
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No this is false. Harry is actually pregnant and the sciatica is caused by his child who is rumoured to be almost as heavy as NAS. Pain should be alleviated once birth occurs in 14 months.
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I heard it's actually Nelson's child
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I'm sorry but a recurring hamstring injury for a 23 year old just doesn't happen without a back sciatic nerve related issue.
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six rings wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:42 pm I'm sorry but a recurring hamstring injury for a 23 year old just doesn't happen without a back sciatic nerve related issue.
Thank you Dr. Does it count as recurring though? He had a hamstring strain, came back too soon trying to ensure he was right for Origin and reinjured it. Recurring is what Suli had. Numerous, completely separate hamstring issues.

Hamstring strains also notoriously recur at a very high frequency once they have occurred.

Speculate all you want, but nobody outside of the medical staff could make a claim to what specifically has caused Harry's injury.

https://corehealthcare.com.au/recurrent ... ing-tears/
Common Causes of Hamstring Tears
Some of the more common causes that may increase the chances of experiencing more than one, or recurrent, hamstring tears are factors such as age, strength imbalances, lack of flexibility, previous injury, and the type of exercise or sport you play. Sports that require a high frequency of kicking movements, acceleration and deceleration motions, changes of direction, speeds and loads, all impact the higher likelihood of a hamstring tear. The average amount of time missed in sports due to a hamstring strain is approximately 18 days, but the actual time missed is often much greater.

The highest risk factor for having a hamstring strain is previously having sustained a hamstring strain. The greatest incidence of reinjury occurs within the first 2 weeks of returning to your chosen sport or exercise. This highlights not only the importance of accurate diagnosis and appropriate treatment but also the importance of sticking to the recommended treatment plan as outlined by your treating physiotherapist.

Other Risks factors
It is important to note that often there are other factors contributing to recurrent hamstring tears. Weakness of core muscle stabilisers around your lower back and gluteal region can often cause an overload or irritation of your sciatic nerve. This can often lead to poor biomechanics and refer pain into the hamstring, or alternately, cause your hamstring to become more loaded than it should be, and make it work harder to do a job it is often not designed to do. So a thorough assessment by a physio, coupled with complete treatment plan compliance, will ensure you achieve the most accurate and best experience possible when recovering from what can be a very frustrating injury, especially if it is the 2nd or 3rd time you’ve had the injury occur.

Do not risk it – do it once and do it properly and ensure you spend more time on the field, in the gym or playing with the kids, and get back to living your best life.
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I think you will find Harry's current sore hamstring is the third time it has happened so you missed one occurrence.
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six rings wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:42 pm I'm sorry but a recurring hamstring injury for a 23 year old just doesn't happen without a back sciatic nerve related issue.
Yes, it can.
Plenty of athletes - especially sprinters who operate on explosive power to go from stationary to flat out in a very short space of time (sound like a dummy half making a run anyone) - are prone to hamstring injuries; especially if they don't fully heal.
No-one is suggesting Tommy T at Manly has sciatic nerve issues or prolapsed discs, yet he has at least as many hamstring problems as Harry.

Also, your comment
The problem for Harry is that he needs "minor" surgery to elevate the sciatic nerve problem in his back or some sort of significant physio but he is not able to get it while he is in the bubble
is so ridiculous it borders on the puerile. Firstly, you DO NOT just go straight to back surgery for minor disc problems - it is ALWAYS a high risk strategy for questionable reward. And if you think Harry isn't already getting world class physio through the Storm system then you are even less informed than we thought.
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In 2020 Tom Trbojevic went down to Melbourne with Keran Foran after a hamstring injury to meet with experts and it was determined it was at largely back related. After undergo rigorous testing which was shared with experts from the University of Wisconsin in America , he had constant physio on his back, and His training and exercise routine was changed accordingly to strengthen his lower back considerably.
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