Billy Slater - Rep Retirement
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I didn't have BIlly as MOM last night, but happy he was in the conversation and I'm not completely against him winning it.
As for the Wally Lewis medal - I can't cop it. I'm a Qld fan, and certainly a huge Slater fan, but the fact he didn't play one game, and wasn't a clear standout in the other 2 means he can't possibly win it in my mind.
If it goes on votes, at an absolute stretch, I could have him on 3-4 for the series.
To me, Damian Cook was the best player of the series and was very stiff not to walk away with the medal. He carved in game 1, had a really good game 2 (from memory had 45+ tackles), and I thought he was really good again last night.
He's certain to be named Kangaroos hooker at the end of the year
As for the Wally Lewis medal - I can't cop it. I'm a Qld fan, and certainly a huge Slater fan, but the fact he didn't play one game, and wasn't a clear standout in the other 2 means he can't possibly win it in my mind.
If it goes on votes, at an absolute stretch, I could have him on 3-4 for the series.
To me, Damian Cook was the best player of the series and was very stiff not to walk away with the medal. He carved in game 1, had a really good game 2 (from memory had 45+ tackles), and I thought he was really good again last night.
He's certain to be named Kangaroos hooker at the end of the year
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I thought Billy was as good as any last night, so was fine with MOM. He shouldn't have gotten player of the series though...
It was quite difficult watching McCullough at 9. The gulf between him and Smith is enormous. Hunt was better at hooker than he was in the halves.
I thought that Glasby played well in his stint too. Certainly contributed more than Jarrod Wallace.
It was quite difficult watching McCullough at 9. The gulf between him and Smith is enormous. Hunt was better at hooker than he was in the halves.
I thought that Glasby played well in his stint too. Certainly contributed more than Jarrod Wallace.
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Hahahahahahahaahaha - Glasby won the game for Qld????? He did his job, but that's one of the craziest things I've read!Cameron wrote:Glasby was the defensive star and won the game for Queensland. How many tackles did he make in the second half when everyone was out on their feet.
I was surprised at Slater’s POTS award. But the voting system they use is a 4, 3, 2, 1 model. Do your own honest assessment on each game (without trying to get to a preconceived outcome) and I can understand how he won it.
MOTM last night was fair enough and he was one of the best on ground in Game 2.
MOTM last night was fair enough and he was one of the best on ground in Game 2.
I have no problem with Billy winning the Wally Lewis medal. As yourhero said he was man of the match in game 3 and imo was easily the best player on the field in game 2. Sure you could make arguments for Cook or someone but Slater was better in 2 out of the 3 games. Fair enough I say
Really. It is no fluke that Glasby has a SOO success rate of 100%.steaming stormer wrote:Hahahahahahahaahaha - Glasby won the game for Qld????? He did his job, but that's one of the craziest things I've read!Cameron wrote:Glasby was the defensive star and won the game for Queensland. How many tackles did he make in the second half when everyone was out on their feet.
Glasby is the guy you want in the centre of the field, defending for his life when you are in front.
If he plays game 1 or 2; the series result may have been different.
Also, just on the 4, 3, 2,1 voting model - It has the exact same perceived flaws as the Dally M. You can play like a busted for 15 rounds, letting in try after try (or even be injured for half the year) but suddenly you turn it on and have a run of 3 Dally M point MOTM games.
Your shit (or absent) games just aren’t a consideration in this model.
Personally, I am fine with it though. This is quite literally a case of NSW fans having their yearly whinge. “We won, we deserve the medal!”
Your shit (or absent) games just aren’t a consideration in this model.
Personally, I am fine with it though. This is quite literally a case of NSW fans having their yearly whinge. “We won, we deserve the medal!”
I don't mind the voting process kinda.. It just takes away from singular performances that matter. Tedesco and Cook both had better standout games than anyone in the series. And both were good enough in the other two games for me to pick either one. The fact that NSW won it should absolutely matter here.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/origi ... 948b365c38
But Daley and Meninga have both hit out at critics who are questioning their integrity, defending their decision to reward the Melbourne No. 1.
“One thing I do know and Mal Meninga knows and Darren Lockyer knows — don’t ever question my integrity, don’t ever question (why) I’m voting because of whatever reason,” Daley said on the Big Sports Breakfast.
“I always vote because I believe they’re the man of the match.”
Daley said he can see why NSW fans are unhappy but stood by the decision to recognise Slater’s contribution across two games.
“I can understand why people are disappointed and blowing up this morning over Billy Slater receiving the Wally Lewis Medal,” Daley said. “He’s been very good in games two and three and I believe he is the player of the series.
“I can understand the frustration from NSW supporters because we want a NSW player to win.
“But that’s why rugby league is so good, it’s all about opinions and it’s all about following and supporting your team. Some people thought Damien Cook could have been player of the series, some people thought James Tedesco could have been player of the series.
“It’s opinion-based and everyone has their opinion about who should be player of the series.
“I’m happy with my selections.”
NSW five-eighth James Maloney said that while Slater had performed strongly, a number of Blues players were more worthy recipients.
“I think Teddy was very good. I thought Tommy Trbojevic was outstanding. There’s a whole heap of guys that put in massive performances for us,” he said. “There’s no doubt Bill was a real key player in Queensland’s performance.
“But at the end of the day we won the series. You’d think they probably could’ve found a deserving recipient in our team. But oh well, it is what it is.”
Laurie Dailey is one of the fairest people in the world.
So he is impeccable.
Look at it this way - The 4-3-2-1 from each judge in the first game don't really get many votes in game 2 or game 3.
Game 2 - Slater comes back and makes a huge contribution that was missing in Game 1, sets up 3 tries.
All 3 judges go for a different NSW player as the best player on the ground. But all 3 go for Billy Slater as the 2nd best player. So Slater gets 12 votes.
Game 3 - Slater puts in a really good performance again, Qld win and it is his last game. Some emotion in it. Again Slater is voted best or second best player on the ground by all 3 judges. Slater scores 13 votes.
Slater has 25 votes for the series.
And NSW's performance is so even and so spread from one game to another that no one really stands out that much. so no NSW player gets to 25 votes over the 3 games.
Hence Slater wins Man of the Series.
But Daley and Meninga have both hit out at critics who are questioning their integrity, defending their decision to reward the Melbourne No. 1.
“One thing I do know and Mal Meninga knows and Darren Lockyer knows — don’t ever question my integrity, don’t ever question (why) I’m voting because of whatever reason,” Daley said on the Big Sports Breakfast.
“I always vote because I believe they’re the man of the match.”
Daley said he can see why NSW fans are unhappy but stood by the decision to recognise Slater’s contribution across two games.
“I can understand why people are disappointed and blowing up this morning over Billy Slater receiving the Wally Lewis Medal,” Daley said. “He’s been very good in games two and three and I believe he is the player of the series.
“I can understand the frustration from NSW supporters because we want a NSW player to win.
“But that’s why rugby league is so good, it’s all about opinions and it’s all about following and supporting your team. Some people thought Damien Cook could have been player of the series, some people thought James Tedesco could have been player of the series.
“It’s opinion-based and everyone has their opinion about who should be player of the series.
“I’m happy with my selections.”
NSW five-eighth James Maloney said that while Slater had performed strongly, a number of Blues players were more worthy recipients.
“I think Teddy was very good. I thought Tommy Trbojevic was outstanding. There’s a whole heap of guys that put in massive performances for us,” he said. “There’s no doubt Bill was a real key player in Queensland’s performance.
“But at the end of the day we won the series. You’d think they probably could’ve found a deserving recipient in our team. But oh well, it is what it is.”
Laurie Dailey is one of the fairest people in the world.
So he is impeccable.
Look at it this way - The 4-3-2-1 from each judge in the first game don't really get many votes in game 2 or game 3.
Game 2 - Slater comes back and makes a huge contribution that was missing in Game 1, sets up 3 tries.
All 3 judges go for a different NSW player as the best player on the ground. But all 3 go for Billy Slater as the 2nd best player. So Slater gets 12 votes.
Game 3 - Slater puts in a really good performance again, Qld win and it is his last game. Some emotion in it. Again Slater is voted best or second best player on the ground by all 3 judges. Slater scores 13 votes.
Slater has 25 votes for the series.
And NSW's performance is so even and so spread from one game to another that no one really stands out that much. so no NSW player gets to 25 votes over the 3 games.
Hence Slater wins Man of the Series.
I did my own voting to see what I would get;
Game 1
4 Points - James Tedesco
3 Points - James Maloney
2 Points - Greg Inglis
1 Points - Damien Cook
Game 2
4 Points - Boyd Cordner
3 Points - Billy Slater
2 Points - James Maloney
1 Points - Valentine Holmes
Game 3
4 Points - Billy Slater
3 Points - Valentine Holmes
2 Points - Tom Trbojevic
1 Points - DCE
Player of the Series - Billy Slater (7 points)
Runner Up - James Maloney (5 points)
Game 1
4 Points - James Tedesco
3 Points - James Maloney
2 Points - Greg Inglis
1 Points - Damien Cook
Game 2
4 Points - Boyd Cordner
3 Points - Billy Slater
2 Points - James Maloney
1 Points - Valentine Holmes
Game 3
4 Points - Billy Slater
3 Points - Valentine Holmes
2 Points - Tom Trbojevic
1 Points - DCE
Player of the Series - Billy Slater (7 points)
Runner Up - James Maloney (5 points)
the thing was Cordner excepted who was imo NSWs best forward
the NSW forwards were consistent and low key for the whole series.
probably why they won.
previously NSW would pick forwards like Aaron Woods whose games would fluctuate widely. MOM one game and a stinker the next.
The NSW were just workman like and consistent. A no-name brand of achievers.
the NSW forwards were consistent and low key for the whole series.
probably why they won.
previously NSW would pick forwards like Aaron Woods whose games would fluctuate widely. MOM one game and a stinker the next.
The NSW were just workman like and consistent. A no-name brand of achievers.